Atari Support Audio Light Music Files auto folder woes Data Diet type programs & Random access For Sale G-Print users wanted Gloom and doom in the UK? How to copy screen display using fortran? MEGA STE Mega STE compatability with First Word NEC P6 PLUS P.D. "Unix" type thingie? Available? Panther & Jaguar. PASCAL Re~1: Mega STe (2 msgs) Rules of Engagement sozobon C and SUN TeX joy, LaTeX woes. what types of joysticks work with 520ST? Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Oct 91 15:35:32 GMT From: noao!asuvax!gatech!utkcs2!duncan.cs.utk.edu!gathings@arizona.edu (Golando Gathings) Subject: 520 st system forsale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have the following system for sale: Atari 520 system with 1 external ssdd external drive, Uniterm Vt100 terminal software, operating system software, and 1st word word processor Price: $200 or best offer. Golando ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 16:18:24 GMT From: mcsun!hp4nl!phigate!philce!nlvs31!meulenbr@uunet.uu.net (Frans Meulenbroeks) Subject: Atari Minix and ICD To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel) writes: >Does anybody who uses ST Minix read this newsgroup (anymore) ? Frans >Meulenbroeks (who's name is on the COVER of the ST Minix vers. 1.5 >manual ) I know shows up occasionally. anyone else ? Hi! I'm here. I usually glance through this group and read comp.os.minix to great detail (assuming our news feed works). >from version 1.5.10.0 (the version SHIPPED by Prentis-Hall) to at >least version 1.5.10.3 and recompile the thing...... Yes, it DOES >work!!! The patches are available somewhere on plains.nodak.edu for >anonymous ftp. The latest version is 1.5.10.4. I posted this one several months ago. I assume these diffs are also at plains. However they do not apply as smoothly as [1-3] do. >Now, if you want to be able to use MORE than 5 partitions at one time >(Which is a different matter than using partitions out beyond >/dev/hd4) you'll have to change a #define somewhere. Since I haven't >done it I don't remember where it is..... 4 partitons is more than >enough for my purposes. NR_SUPERS it is defined in fs/const.h or so. Mine is set to 7 instead of 5. (but then again I also have 3 hard disks connected). Note that if you want to connect more than 1 hard disk you definitely need to upgrade to 1.5.10.3. Enjoy, -- Frans Meulenbroeks (meulenbr@prl.philips.nl) Philips Research Laboratories ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 91 03:12:02 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!act rix!Roger.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard) Subject: Atari Support To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Well I have just seen a New product for the teaching of Piano Playing called 'Miracle'. This is a Large Keyboard, it also has Midi Support, and connects to your computer/games console thought the Joystick port. It looks like its a USA product as one of the manuals that I had a chance to look at, had the Software Toolworks name on it. But now the crunch comes, NO Support for Atari Computers, it has support for PC's, Amiga and Nintendo, but that is again a funny thing none of those systems have built in Midi.. So why has the USA droped Atari, is it no longer considered a machine for music use, and do they no longer sell them in music shops over there .? -- *** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz *** *** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 *** *** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, *** *** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe *** ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 17:43:37 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!m.cs.uiuc.edu!sunb10. cs.uiuc.edu!flute.cs.uiuc.edu!totty@arizona.edu (Brian Totty) Subject: Audio Light Music Files To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Does anyone know the format for Music Studio files from Audio Light? I have a MIDI synthesizer hooked to my workstation, and I'd like to build a player to play the song files that I have on my ST. Is the format proprietary? Any information/source code would be greatly appreciated... / Brian Totty o o /__ __ o Department of Computer Science o / / / / 1304 W. Springfield Ave \_/ "We have corn in /__/ / / Urbana, IL 61801 Massachusetts too!" totty@cs.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 19:36:45 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!csam.lbl.gov!ux5.lbl .gov!keithj@arizona.edu (Keith J Groves) Subject: auto folder woes To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Oct17.081345.24836@wg.estec.nl> chris@wg.estec.nl writes: > > >I've got an atari 1040ST. I've managed to put something in my auto folder on >the hard disk which hangs the machine. Is it possible to abort the auto folder >or boot with the hard disk off and still be able to access it once it's >switched on again? > >Any help would be appreciated. >Regards > > >Chris >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Chris Rouch chris@wg.estec.nl >Serco Space Ltd. Tel: +31 1719 84672 >ESTEC, The Netherlands. Fax: +31 1719 84192 > >Underfunded OAPs turn to a life of crime in the great cucumber roberies of 1989 > Chris, Your best bet is to insert a bootable floppy into your drive and turn your hard disk and ST on at the same time. The hard disk will not boot for at least 15 seconds, but in the meantime, your floppy will. At that point you should have some sort of desktop. The only procedure left is to run your harddisk's driver. This procedure should allow you access to your auto folder so that you may delete the offending program. Keith Groves ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 91 02:13:21 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au! uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@arizona.edu (Warwick Allison) Subject: Data Diet type programs & Random access To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Data Diet compress files transparently, right? How [well] does it cope with random accesses to a file? For example, if I Fseek 15000 bytes into the file, how does D.D. cope? I'm lost, and very sceptical about these Data Diet tools. Also, I had a head crash on my hard disk, but I was able to restore a large number of ASCII source files by dumping tracks from the HD and manually sorting them out. Had they been compressed, all would have been lost. Secondly, my main reason for a hard disk is speed. I can buy a disk five time the size, but not one five times as fast. How much slower is Data Diet? Warwick -- _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au / * <-- Computer Science Department, \_.-._/ University of Queensland, v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 21:54:57 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ukma!wupost!m.cs.uiuc.edu!roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux a.cso.uiuc.edu!mts10271@arizona.edu (Michael T Stepniczka) Subject: For Sale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu FOR SALE: Hardware- Atari Mega ST 2 (2 Meg) Atari SM124 Monochrome monitor Star NX-10 9-pin printer (The removable cover has cracks, but the printer is fine) Printer cable Midi cables Software- Turbo C 2.0 w/ manuals (German - 5 disks) DevPac (2.0) w/ manual Assempro w/ manual CAD 3-D 2.0 w/ manual Interlink w/ manual Universe II w/ manual (3 disks) Books- Atari ST Internals (Abacus-2) Atari ST GEM Prog. Reference (Abacus-3) Atari ST Machine Language (Abacus-4) I would like to sell this all as a package for $800 o.b.o. If this isn't possible, I will consider splitting it up (what a pain!). Thanks. I am currently in Champaign, IL. Mike Stepniczka mts10271@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 19:43:45 GMT From: lll-winken!aunro!alberta!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca!mtroyal.uucp!str achan6183@uunet.uu.net Subject: G-Print users wanted To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Oct21.234230.1490@odin.corp.sgi.com>, stever@flatcat.wpd.sgi.com (Steve Whitney) writes: > Users of G-Print (my text formatting/printing program which uses word processor > command codes): If you'd be interested in beta testing G-Print 2.0, please > reply to me at this e-mail address. > > Version 2.0 includes: > > Limited Word Perfect file support > TX2 file support (except graphics) > A different font for every pitch in WP, ST Writer, and First Word Plus > Support for FSM GDOS long font names, continuous point sizes, and > variabel character aspect ratios (width setting) > Document Information box > Various print order options > Several bugs axed. > > Thanks for your help, > > Steve Whitney Yes i would be interested in Beta Testing it for you please send it to me as it would be most appreciated. thanks ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 16:19:33 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!qmw-dcs!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham Thomas) Subject: Gloom and doom in the UK? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu From article <1991Oct17.010240.20942@actrix.gen.nz>, by Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard): > > What has happen to ST-User, no sign of it here for some months, > and this is for air-mail ordered copies.. It's actually not doing too badly, for a change. The mag was revamped for the October issue, taking on board some of the features of the late, lamented ST World. The current (November) issue contains possibly their best cover disk for some time, including a working (except for 'save') demo version of Avant Vector. The tone of the mag is much less juvenile than it was a few months ago. Games coverage is still, of course, present, but it's mostly confined to its own special section, which can be pulled out. ST User now has IDs on several online systems, including CompuServe. I can't remember that one, but an alternative is stuser@compulink.co.uk Graham -- Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: +44 273 685865 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 20:00:21 GMT From: carl!bscott@princeton.edu (Bruce Scott) Subject: How to copy screen display using fortran? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello all, I use the Absoft FORTRAN quite heavily from time to time. I would like to be able to find the 32kbytes (right?) which contain the data for the monochrome screen in memory, and copy them elsewhere from a FORTRAN program. Is this possible at all? I've never seen info like this anywhere, but I'm sure this is a FAQ to someone in the know. Specific definition of problem: (a) I have drawn curves to the screen using the appropriate AES call. (b) Copy screen data, byte-for-byte, from RAM into a program-defined array (this could also be bit-for-bit) Thanks in advance, e-mail or post. -- Gruss, The deadliest bullshit is Bruce D. Scott odorless and transparent bds at dgaipp1s.bitnet -- W Gibson Max Planck Institut fuer Plasmaphysik ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 21:53:54 GMT From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud) Subject: MEGA STE To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have two small problems with my MEGA STE and wondered if anyone (Allan ?) could give me a hint what I should do: - If I have several windows open on the desktop and start a program I sometimes get the message "Out of Memory" (or something like that). When the program is ended the last opened window/folder is closed. This is irritating (happend with only 2 windows open sometimes). - I have run out of room in the newdesk.inf file I have lots of icons on the desktop, icons for files, files installed with doc-types, and all together it it more that 126 lines. But for some STUPID reason 126 lines seems to be the max-limit for the newdesk.inf file. A patch gives more lines would be great !!!! Lars-Erik / Registered Developer / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ 0sterud / w/ Atari Scandinavia / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / __________/ _______________________/ ______________________/ ____/ / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 91 14:50:18 WET DST From: "Ian C. McCall" Subject: Mega STE compatability with First Word To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Somebody recently posted a note here saying that First Word 3.xx was Mega STE incompatable. I have to say that I've run all versions right up to the latest TT compatable version with no problems whatsoever, so whoever it was must have another software conflict somewhere. Cheers, Ian McCall (csc345@uk.ac.lancs.cent1) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 19:43:53 GMT From: math.fu-berlin.de!fauern!forwiss.uni-passau.de!spock!wieninge@uunet.uu.net (Christian Wieninger) Subject: NEC P6 PLUS To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hallo, seit heute habe ich mit meinem P6 PLUS ein kleines Problem. Beim Erstellen eines Druckertreibers fielen mir seltsame weisse Linien auf. Nach langem Suchen sah ich ,dass im Druckkopf eine Nadel fehlt oder abgebrochen ist :( . Es ist die unterste, was beim Textausdruck nicht stoert, umso mehr aber bei Grafik. Deshalb meine Frage: - Hat jemand das gleiche Problem schon gehabt, und wie gegebenenfalls geloest? - Kennt jemand Firmen, die Nadeln in Druckkoepfe einsetzen? Bis jetzt konnte ich nur eine finden, die dafuer 210,- DM will. - Kann man, falls ich die Nadel doch noch finde, diese einfach wieder einsetzen? - Wer schenkt mir seinen Druckkopf(Ha Ha) oder hat einen P6 PLUS zum Ausschlachten zu verkaufen? Fuer jede Hilfe dankbar, Christian. (P.S. Bitte meldet euch wenn moeglich per e-mail) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 17:39:14 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.o hio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!midway!spssig!bobhays@arizona.ed u (Bob Hays) Subject: P.D. "Unix" type thingie? Available? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu You have gulam, so you have a *shell*, a thingie that interprets commands. Now, you want some utilities - go to atari.archive.umich.edu and find the unixtkit.arc (or is that .lzh) file - this is the basic UNIX utility set ready for use in gulam. Copy the desired .TTP files (renamed from .PRG) for your desired utilities to the bin directory (where your other binaries for gulam are). If you want C, you should go to the programming subdir of atari.archive and seek out the sozobon C stuff. This is what I did to put together a programming environment (cheap) for my Atari. I added the GEMfast libraries so that I could work on a sample editor for my old, lame-duck S612 sampler from AKAI (again, cheap). I have my environment (get this) on one DS/DD disk that I boot. I suggest you get a make utility if you want to do serious C development and a clock for your Atari (unless it already has one). That should be all you need to do what you want. Have fun! - Bob -- ========================================================================= The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not SPSS, Inc. bobhays@spss.com Phone: (312) 329-3522 Bob Hays Fax: (312) 329-3657 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 19:38:35 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia .edu!lll-winken!aunro!alberta!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca!mtroyal.uuc p!strachan6183@arizona.edu Subject: Panther & Jaguar. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article , mikal.bbs@shark.cse.fau.edu writes: > Someone mentioned two machines Atari is/was (rumored?) to be > working on called Panther and Jaguar. Does anyone know what > they are or where rumored to be? The Panther is supposed to be the next St and the Jaguar is just an atari console similar to the megadrive or the super famicom ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 14:54:44 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!liv-cs!liv-uxa!scst32@uunet.uu.net (Mr. R.J. Turnbull) Subject: PASCAL To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hellup!! My brotha just started a programming course and is learning pascal. Are there any good pascal compilers in the public domain available by anonymous FTP..? If so where..? ( s'cuse the ignorance I ain't an atariist!! ) Rik. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 17:13:58 GMT From: noao!asuvax!gatech!psuvax1!psuvm!frmop11!dearn!dmswwu1c!onm07@arizona.edu Subject: Re~1: Mega STe To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <5486634@shlink.hanse.de>, lp@shlink.hanse.de (Lutz Petersen) says: > > In my case 1st_Word 3.xx doesn't work. Now I have 'downgraded' to version > 2.0x to work with some old wordplus-documents. > > lp > > >-- > >\\ lutz petersen - 2200 elmshorn, germany - +49 4121-63587 v.32 \\ > \\ lp@shlink.hanse.de lp@shlink.sh.sub.org zer: lp@shlink.zer \\ You should *upgrade* to Wordplus 3.17. Contact your distributor (like Atari Germany). ___________________________ cut here _____________________________________ Julian F. Reschke, Hensenstr. 142, D-4400 Muenster, Phone: ++49 251 861241 fast eMail: ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET, slow: jr@ms.maus.de (++49 251 77216) ____________________ correct me if I'm wrong _____________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 16:11:37 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!qmw-dcs!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham Thomas) Subject: Re~1: Mega STe To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu From article <1991Oct22.121147.8296@actrix.gen.nz>, by Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard): > Well if you have brought 1st_Word Plus, you can upgrade to version > 3.15, this I have read is the TT version, should work for the Mega STE..?? In the UK the explicitly TT-compatible version is 3.20TT. Yes, it actually says '3.20TT' in a dialog box that appears briefly during the startup sequence. However, it might be the case that other version numbers are used in other countries. Interested people might try mailing sproducts@compulink.co.uk - the ID of GST Software Products, who write Wordplus (and who are about to release Timeworks Publisher 2 soon, but that's another story). Currently, the 'sproducts' mail addressed is being looked after by a man called Simon Jones. I don't know whether he can, or is willing to, mail to people external to the CIX (Compulink Information Exchange) conferencing system. Graham -- Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: +44 273 685865 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 12:25:06 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!mucs!p4.cs.man.ac.uk!oshaughj@uunet.uu.net (Jamie O'Shaughnessy) Subject: Rules of Engagement To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Does anyone know if this game is out on the ST yet and if so is it any good? Thanks, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 11:30:20 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!edcastle!robin@uunet.uu.net (R C Smith) Subject: sozobon C and SUN To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have been trying to build the sozobon C compiler on a SUN 4 using the sozosun.zoo diffs on terminator (aka atari.archive). Most of it compiles except for hcc.ttp, the block pre.c cannot find some externs:-- _curstr _nxttok _sawnl _chr_push _curtok _tk_flags Where are these? The Makefile also has in the OBJS tok.o, there is no tok.c but there is a tok.h which is included with #include "tok.h" in many of the .c blocks. So I removed the tok.o from the $(OBJS) and only the above errors show. Can anyone help me? Thanks Robin ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 15:34:40 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.u ka.de!ifistg!raichle@arizona.edu (Bernd Raichle) Subject: TeX joy, LaTeX woes. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <4892@tamsun.TAMU.EDU> n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann) writes: > This is the strange thing. After successfully building the "plain.fmt" file, > I took to building the "lplain.fmt" file for LaTeX. It builds fine till it > starts to build the fonts. > [...] > BINGO, I get more fonts in, but then > TEX stops building LaTeX will another font. It seems that initex misses lcircle10 lcirclew10 or circle10 circlew10 These fonts are the same (with different names): lcircle10 == circle10 lcirclew10 == circlew10 You can do three things: - edit `lfonts.tex' and add/delete the `l' or - rename the tfm and pk files or - copy the tfm and pk files (or create links if available) (I recommend the last, because there are many dvi-files with references to circleXX and lcircleXX.) -bernd ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 91 23:16:16 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq .oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@arizona.edu (Warwick Allison) Subject: what types of joysticks work with 520ST? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu doucetdb@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes: >buchs@obiwan (Kevin J. Buchs) writes: >> I am finally going to get a joystick for my 520ST. Do I need to get a >> particular type? Anyone have brand and source recommendations. >> Please Email and I summarize if there is interest. >I have always used the good old Atari black joysticks. They work well, are >durable, and are *cheap*. ;) By the way, I have a 1040ST. YUCK! I went through 4 sets of Atari joysticks before I bought myself a pair of WICO joysticks. That was 8 years ago, and the WICOs still work perfectly! Atari joysticks (and most others) use weak little shell switches, and all soft plastic components - WICO use strong reed switches, hard plastic and metal components! Sure, they cost more, but in $/year they are by far the most economical! My 2 yen worth, (That's the othe thing: I think WICO are "Made in the USA") Warwick -- _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au / * <-- Computer Science Department, \_.-._/ University of Queensland, v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA. ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************